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Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004, 09:30 pm
ursus77: (no subject)

A conservative makes the case for Blue State Secession. ;-)

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Mon, Nov. 8th, 2004, 07:08 am
ursus77: (no subject)

As I was flipping through the TV channels, a few of the televangists were proclaiming to their herd that they exercised God's will in electing W. This is a bit disturbing, honestly, and does nothing to counter the liberal stereotype that Bush voters are hicks brainwashed by evangelism.

On the other hand, THIS is even more disturbing. These people are loons and I'm glad they are shooting themselves before they shoot someone else.

I haven't seen this much vitriol for a sitting president since Clinton, and that was largely confined to the Far Right and their insane conspiracy theories. But in this election it seems like a lot of otherwise low key people are willing to secede or riot. These people don't respect democracy when their candidate doesn't win - a very disturbing thought.

Wed, Nov. 3rd, 2004, 06:47 pm
ursus77: Religion and society

Syndicated columnist Mark Shields had an insight tonight on PBS.

He said that while most Americans believe in separation of church and state, they don't believe in separation of church and society. He pointed out that religions do a lot of good, especially in charity work. He noted the Democratic party has become extremely secular in its approach to society, suggesting it might be one of the reasons for its humiliating defeat last night.

The News is reporting that the election was decided by the 22% of voters who considered faith and morality the most important issue, even over terrorism and the economy. The Republicans have an advantage over the Democrats in the issue. It would seem that Shields' analysis is spot on. As long as the Democrats' stance on religion ranges from indifference to hostility, it will never win over that great mass of rural voters.

Clearly Republicans of all stripes owe something to the Evangelicals - even if we don't always agree with them - who turned out in large numbers to vote for the GOP.

What are some of the cultural and political bridges that Pagan Republicans can build with Christian Republicans?

Wed, Nov. 3rd, 2004, 05:38 pm
ursus77: (no subject)

The UK media concern "Guardian" tried writing undecided voters in Ohio and convince them to vote against Bush. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html

Many Buckeye State citizens wrote back. With sometimes amusing responses.

What scares me is that at least a few Ohio Democrats actively welcomed a foreign media influence in an American election to support their candidate.

Wed, Nov. 3rd, 2004, 10:13 am
ursus77: (no subject)

If anyone cares to venture into hostile (and rather fluffy) territory, you can answer this poster's question:


Wed, Nov. 3rd, 2004, 06:50 am
ursus77: (no subject)

Well, no matter who gets the White House, its clear the Republicans have a Congressional victory. The Democrats even lost their majority leader (ha ha).

The social conservatives will be happy that gay marriage was banned in 11 states, in some states by as much as a 3-1 margin. I'm not sure if that is necessarily the right thing to do, but I'm not going to tell another state what to do with its internal affairs

The increasing population of the South, which is solidly Republican, has something to do with it. This will be a factor in politics for some time to come.

Considering that the economy is a bit shaky, and that the involvement in Iraq is dragging on, this has to be considered a huge victory for the Republicans. All the neopagans casting spells for Democrats must be sorely disappointed. ;-)

Tue, Nov. 2nd, 2004, 09:02 pm
minteckers: Quote

I was just at Trader Joes and I overheard a 13-15 year old boy say:

"It can't be conservative food, it has to be liberal food!"

And he was serious.

I don't know what they were doing, or what in Trader Joes could be considered "conservative" food, but...yeah. This election has driven all past the point of madness.

Tue, Nov. 2nd, 2004, 10:24 am
ursus77: (no subject)

Well, I don't know anything else, but in this highly contested battleground state with 21 electoral votes, Bush has at least 1 vote. :-)

The press is already reporting alleged problems with electronic voting machines in my state alone. Hunker down, folks. Stock up on bottled water and ammunition. Remember there are three stages in regime change - voting, litigation, and riots. It's almost certain we'll be in the second stage by tomorrow, and I wouldn't put it past some people to take it to the third.

Fri, Oct. 29th, 2004, 10:24 pm
texasknight: We ARE going to win

John Kerry is a puts. Everyone that isn't a knee-jerk reactionary knows that. His record is pathetic. and he has no plan on doing ANYTHING to protect America. The man is willing to sell us all down the drain in order to get the Democrats back in the White House. His claims that Bush isn't doing what it takes to win the war on terror. This is just absolutely false. The US public doesn't know about all the SpecOps missions winning small, quiet, yet majorly affective victories all over the world. In South America, Asia, Africa, AND South West Asia. We never hear about them because they are Classified: Top Secret. But they ARE being won. Why do you think the only attacks any more are in Southern Europe, which has stoped as of late as well, And the ME itself? The NSA, CIA, FBI at home, and Armed Forces are kicking Al-Qaida's butt all over the world. It's truth. Have faith my fellow Pagans. The gods will stand by those who stand up for themselves.

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